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19 July
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Cotabato and Mindanao

Over the past year, we have kept an informal record of scammers who have been identified on our site.  We have had scammers claiming to be from the Philippines, the U.S., U.K., Nigeria, and elsewhere, some of whom we know are really from the places they claim to be from, and some whom are not.  We do our best both to remove scammers from our site and to educate our members about this important subject so that they can avoid emotional and financial traps.  As soon as we are sure about any new intelligence, we post it in our letters and blogs, for all our members to read.

Muslim Ladies at a Computer in the Philippines

Insist On Webcam Chat. Don't Get Tricked!

We have found that ladies from the area of Mindanao tend to be more likely to be scammers, and in particular, those from Cotabato.  All things considered, with the increased quantity of scammers from this area and the increased risks of violence in Mindanao, we now recommend that our members exercise extreme caution with any person from this region.

The behaviors we have seen in the scammers that characterize Cotabato and Mindanao are typical of Philippine scams: fake photos; reluctance to appear on webcam; requests to purchase webcams, computers, cell phones; premature declarations of love; preference for chatting on yahoo messenger rather than on our site; insistence on needing money for many different reasons; form letters; being online all the time; suggestion to circumvent immigration laws; request for excessive money to correct passport or birth certificate problems; they can be of any age but tend to be young, sometimes even in violation of our terms of service they are under 18 and lie about their age on their profile.

We also, however, want to draw your attention to some conversations we have had with one of our contacts who shared with us some of his experience with meeting people from Cotabato in the past.  In these conversations, we learned that some of the ladies claiming to be from Davao, Zamboanga, and elsewhere in Mindanao were actually in or from Cotabato.  This reinforced what we have observed as well.  Even more absurd, many of these ladies who claim to be Catholic or Christian from these areas are actually Muslim.  Many of the Muslims are part of a Muslim clan called Ampatuan which you can read about on your own.  They view outsiders who are not from their clan as enemies and are taught by teachers and parents to steal from enemies as part of holy war.  They are taught that laws of behavior do not apply to the way they treat those outside their clan.  They also work in teams, coming up with schemes to solicit funds; who you talk to one day on a YM might be a different person from the day before which might be a different person from who answers a phone; and a different person may occasionally do a webcam chat and/or receive money sent.  When they are successful, the money that is sent does not go to the poor children or education or medicine, but to the politicians and religious leaders directly, with only a possible commission going to the web scam team.

In this context, we reiterate our guideline recommendations for our members:

  • insist on chatting on webcam with those you meet online
  • do not send any money to anyone you have met online who you have never met in person
  • chat on our christian-filipina.com chat service, rather than yahoo messenger
  • familiarize yourself with all of our blog entries, and with stories from others at other sites like dragonladies.org
  • if any member ever asks you directly or indirectly for money, report it immediately from their profile page with the ‘report a problem’ feature
  • if you have any questions, please email us using the feedback link; if your question involves another member, send it from their profile page

(Added July 20 — ) One final note, we had previously written about one of the scammers from Mindanao, Rosebel (also known as many other names) — here is our previous entry about the scammer Rosebel Fajardo from Mindanao.  After a hiatus, she (or “she” as the case may be, we have no idea of the true identity or identities) has resurfaced, creating at least two profiles in the past week here on our site, one going by “Kiszle” and another as “Lady” but always using her same famous pictures, and lofty lies.  No doubt she’ll be back; we hope to catch her before her profile goes live, but if she tricks us and you notice her here again, please be sure to let us know!

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28 June
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What Do Our Members Say About Our Site?

We have a form that is part of the cancel process, where we receive feedback from all members who cancel their memberships.  Since we often receive requests from members to know whether people actually meet on our site, we have decided to publish the most recent week of what we have received from canceling members.  This is a typical week.  There are always some who are very happy, some who are not happy, and some who say they are too busy.

two members talking about christian filipina

What Do You Think About Christian Filipina?

  • its not what i was expecting” (6/27/2010) – user 26722, man, 35, United States
  • “I would like to say thank you to Christian Filipina for being the tool in finding my special someone. My prayer has been answered and I found the one perfect for me here. My long wait is finally over. God bless you all! Hallelujah!” (6/27/2010) – user 25395, woman, 39, Philippines
  • “no tym” (6/27/2010) – user 25691, woman, 36, Philippines
  • “I like to restrain my self in dating site at the moment…” (6/27/2010) – user 5746, woman, 28, Philippines
  • “i think its not yet my time the man meant for me. i have to focus on my son and to myself as well. i know in God’s time i can be able to meet those man who are willing to accept me as i am. thank u anyway for this site i do able to learn in many aspects. im still looking forward to registered again in this site maybe after the time that i am ready already.thanks and God bless…” (6/27/2010) – user 25143, woman, 23, Philippines
  • “From my perspective, first and foremost we would like to thank you for allowing us the opportunity to meet via your website. We have chosen a more intimate pathway as we are desiring to be one. Regarding your query I believe that an added chatting service would be beneficial for upgraded members and the inclusion of low level members to exchange contact details as you are aware of the financial situation of the Philippines. Overall the service which you have provided has been secure and just. Technically it would be beneficial if messages were transferred with a quicker turn around. At times it takes approximately 24 – 48 hours for the messages to be transferred between both parties. Finally, Christian Filipino should also include photos of the employment team to develop compassion for future members who are willing to help them retain an income for their work. All the best we wish you continued growth and success and may all the couples establish long lasting relationships through your service.” (6/26/2010) – user 24302, man, 25, Australia
  • “My husband asked me to delete it…Â Thank you so much Christian Filipina, from the buttom of our heart (me & my hubby). Cuz of this site i was able to find the one. May God continue blessing this site… (‘_’)” (6/26/2010) – user 20168, woman, 26, Philippines
  • “I already met someone” (6/26/2010) – user 13657, woman, 34, Philippines
  • “I simply did not find what I was looking for.” (6/26/2010) – user 25612, man, 66, United States
  • “i wanna say thank you Christian Filipina but my search is over,,,,,,and all i can say is thank you!!!!” (6/25/2010) – user 21833, woman, 48, Philippines
  • “im not interested anymore” (6/25/2010) – user 25919, woman, 35, Philippines
  • “I have found someone.” (6/25/2010) – user 26025, man, 60, United States
  • “I found someone” (6/24/2010) – user 25956, woman, 26, Philippines
  • “i just dont like the website” (6/24/2010) – user 26448, woman, 22, Philippines
  • “I withdraw my membership due to lack of time.” (6/23/2010) – user 20528, woman, 29, Philippines
  • “i already found him.” (6/21/2010) – user 21973, woman, 30, Philippines
  • “I found my lover thanks.” (6/21/2010) – user 19246, man, 48, Canada
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03 June
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Do Women Get Scammed on Dating Websites?

We’ve devoted several articles in our blog to men who have been scammed by women (or at least they believed they were scammed by women). But we also think it’s important to caution the ladies.

Almost every day we reject members who appear to be advertising a nanny scheme. Most often the profiles claim to be from the U.K. but actually many of this type of scammer are from Nigeria and sometimes other countries in Africa. Those in Nigeria often work with other scammers in U.K. or other countries to create a network of liars who claim to be ready to help ladies get a job as a nanny taking care of children. Since we prohibit this use of our site in any case, we reject these profiles immediately. However, we believe that the intent of these individuals is not to hire nannies at all. At “best” we believe it is a type of advanced fee fraud, where the ladies will be required to send money in advance to process paperwork – but in fact this money would simply be stolen by the scammers. At worst, the scammers could have something even worse in mind.

We have also heard of a type of fraud from another dating website that we described this December blog entry about scammers.  In that case, supposedly a person (also from U.K.) supposedly sent a package.  We believe that actually no package was ever sent, and the victim was going to be asked to send money to help with a problem in the shipping process.

Then just a few days ago we noticed in the comments of our recent article describing a specific scam profile that had been on our site, a reference to a scam that apparently had occurred here.  Once again, the scammer claimed to be from the U.K.  Actually that is the first reference we have heard to women actually being scammed on our site, so we feel quite bad about it.

Ladies, remember that you also need to be careful.  No matter the excuse or story, do not send money to anyone you have never met in person, period.  If you ever find yourself in a situation where you are considering this, please write to us right away using the feedback link on the bottom of our website pages and ask whether we think the situation is suspicious.

And if ladies or gentlemen are asked by any other member of the site for money, please write to us immediately and send us the user number and if possible the full text of the message.  We will investigate, and in most cases we can learn from your message and other information we store on the site whether that person is a scammer or not.

As always, if you have any comments to add relating to this topic, please feel free to add a comment to this article.

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18 May
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Rosebel Monique Fajardo, A Profile of a Repeat Scammer From Mindanao, Philippines

Scammer Monique Rosebel Fajardo

Beware Scammer Monique Rosebel Fajardo

We have several criminals who repeatedly create profiles on our site to solicit money from our members.  Most of the profiles they attempt to create never go live on the site, because we eliminate them in the approval process.  However, from time to time we miss one.  Here is an example of one we missed recently.  We are ashamed that we missed this one, because this individual has already stolen thousands of dollars from members at our site.  Her name goes by various phrasings of “Monique Rosebel Fajardo” and her profiles with ages in the 20s have phrases like “Relationships are just like a receipe or a mirror. What ever you put in you will get back. Just to let you know. I am a Christian. However, I don`t practice my faith like others.” and “My future man may go to church as he feels necessary though ~>Someone who believes in UNCONDITIONAL LOVE When you need someone to encourage you, I want it to be me.”  In other words, this scammer and others like her know exactly what to write to appear sincere, and yet she is a deceitful person.  She even has phrases like, “I VALUE NOTHING MORE THAN HONESTY ! IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF EVERY SOLID RELATIONSHIP AND ENCOURAGES TRUST AND RESPECT ! I DESPISE LIARS !LOVE IS NOT WONDERING HOW LONG IT WILL LAST BUT HOW STRONG 2 HEARTS CAN MAKE IT GROW!”  How many innocent men has she charmed with these borrowed phrases?  We suspect that based on the money she has stolen from members of this site and probably other sites, this criminal steals around $20,000 per year.  Don’t let yourself be one of the victims of this person or anyone like her.

This individual represents the epitome of the criminals who live by taking advantage of others.  Here is an example of one of her emails to one member:

First of all, I want to thank you for reviewing my profile and reading my Personalized Introductory Letter. I know it’s not possible to tell everything about ourselves in just one email.

First let me tell you that I am serious about finding a man to marry. I’m not looking for a pen pal, etc. All I’m looking for is a man that’s sincere about developing a loving, honest, open relationship that might lead to a future marriage. That sounds simple doesn’t it? We both know something as big as getting married never really is all that easy though. Not if you want to do the best you can and make sure you’re finding that special someone you can love and spend the rest of your life with.

if you like to connect or to have a fruitful communications this is my email address were we cant start getting to know each others well..my private email monique.fajardo20@yahoo.com let me know if you email me..okay..

Affectionately yours,
Rosebel

Monique Fajardo - Rosebel

Monique Fajardo - "Rosebel" - A Scammer To Avoid

Some items that should immediately raise your suspicion:

  1. she attempts to include a personal email in an initial contact.  Contact information like this is prohibited in exchanges between free level members according to our terms of service.  Indeed, we catch many scammers based on this, followed by additional research.  We strongly encourage you to never give out your email address or to contact any other member except through the site’s messaging and chat features.  This is because the criminals like this one who claims to be “Rosebel Monique Fajardo” know we monitor site communications, so they attempt as quickly as possible to get away from the site that they can fool our members without us catching them.
  2. her pictures are indecent and vain
  3. she’s too confident and formal; clearly she’s sending a form letter
  4. she just joined recently

What should you do if you encounter someone you think is a scammer?

  1. If you aren’t sure, you can always email the site owners to ask their opinion – use the Feedback link at the bottom of the page, or reply to any email message from the site
  2. Always use our site for communication, and have a firm rule against giving out your personal contact information
  3. Inform anyone you are chatting with right away that you have a firm rule against sending money to someone you have not met in person
  4. If any member solicits money directly or indirectly plays a guilt game, please forward us the message or text and allow us to take appropriate action.

What should you do if you get tricked by a scammer?

  1. Maybe you did not take our advice and decided to send money to someone you met over the internet.  Most likely it did not work out, because it is not the right way to start a mature relationship.  It’s time to learn a lesson.  Don’t do it again.  Please inform us if this happens to you, so that we can permanently remove the member’s profile.  Remember, if anyone comes up with a tall tale about needing money for an operation, or school, or medicine, etc, etc, it is simply a lie.  The same thing goes for sending money for any scheme to try to do some business venture in Nigeria or anywhere else.  It’s simply a vacuous sales pitch.
  2. Next time, take our advice – write in your profile (or in your messages) that you have a firm rule against sending money to people you have not met; plan a trip to the Philippines where you will meet several people, and don’t send any money or become emotionally involved with any one until you’ve had the chance to meet several people in person.
  3. Take it easy on yourself.  Maybe you lost a lot of money.  Ok, let it go.  It has happened to many other people also.  You are not alone.  We know it hurts.  If it didn’t, you might not be able to learn from it.  Let it go, move on, and be more careful next time.
  4. And by all means, if you ever meet someone like this again in person or over the internet, just say, “Sorry, I’ve got to go,” turn around, and go somewhere else to meet people who are more deserving of your company.
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17 April
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Would Our Site Be Better If It Were Free?

Some people write to us suggesting that our site would be better if it were completely free, with unlimited messages permissible for any member, unlimited chatting, no restrictions on sending contact information.  We have considered this, and we believe that our site is much better with its current tiered membership structure.  If anything, we’re more likely in the future to raise the fees for membership levels and eliminate our lowest one-week membership and possibly one-month membership level.

Our site is owned and run by two of us; we are a Fil-Am couple, and we currently live in Hawaii, USA.  When we started the site, we lived in the Philippines and were in the process of applying for a residency visa.  Every day, we personally read about two hundred membership applications and modified profiles and approve or reject them based on their content.  We also answers dozens of phone calls, emails, inquiries and abuse reports sent in through our feedback form.  We also read hundreds of queued messages in order to protect our members as much as possible from fraudulent users and ensure that our members are following the terms of service.  Although we are not available 24×7, we believe we offer unparalleled customer service.  We also have a toll-free number (877-FIL-IPIA) and receive calls from members on a regular basis with questions about their experience on the site.  And finally, we actively advertise the site using partners like google, yahoo, as well as affiliates, to help those individuals who can benefit from the site to find it.

If we did not have the revenue from membership fees, we would not be able to dedicate the time to maintaining our standards in our membership.  We would not be able to invest in new site features like the text/video/voice chat we developed.  We would not be able to offer a toll-free number or take the time to speak with our members.  We would not be able to pay for the dedicated server where our site is securely hosted in a top-tier data center in Los Angeles, California.

There are, of course, completely free dating sites on the internet, and you can visit them and try for yourself. One of the biggest free sites is dateinasia.com — go ahead and visit there.  You may find your match, and if so, we hope that it is a good match for you.  On the other hand, you may find yourself inundated with invitations for paid webcam sex chat, ladyboys (gays posing as women), Nigerian fraud artists, and con ladies from the Philippines who suddenly develop financial problems as soon as they meet you.  We welcome you to come back and join our site at any time if you prefer the calmer environment we maintain here where our membership has a much higher percentage of sincere, God-fearing ladies.

We do understand, of course, that not everyone has $19.99, $24.99, $49.99, or $79.99 to join our site.  For this reason, we do not require that every member upgrade their account.  Free level members are welcome to send two messages per 24-hour period and send 10 winks per 24-hour period.  And if one member upgrades his or her account, he or she can send and receive contact information from any other member. It is not necessary for both members to upgrade.

dollar bill image - thanks for supporting our site

Thanks For Supporting Our Site By Upgrading

We also offer our members the opportunity to upgrade for free by helping us to spread the message about our site.  If you have a suggestion about how to spread the word, just let us know, and we’ll consider whether that feels like an appropriate trade in exchange for an upgraded membership.  Or you can create a video about our site and post it to youtube.  Here’s an example video posted to youtube from one of our members who is sharing the message about Christian Filipina in video form.

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10 April
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Use Power Search to Meet Our Members

One of our features we have built in to the site is Power Search. You can use this feature to meet other members who meet specific criteria or share some of your interests. You can search by denomination, height/weight, educational level, and even keyword. You can find the right Filipina or Asian lady, or gentleman, by trying out different searches. Just click the word “Power Search” at the top of the page.  We also invite you to view the following screencast in which we demonstrate the Power Search features.

We are always interested to hear your feedback about our search features, so if there are any suggestions for further improvement, let us know!

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03 April
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Don’t Send Money To Someone You’ve Never Met

Offer Your Companionship, But Keep Your Money

Don't confuse charity and love. Offer your companionship but keep your cash.

We’ve written about how we prohibit any of our members from soliciting money through our website.  We’ve also written about how we strongly recommend that our members do not ever send money to someone they have not met in person.  We want to emphasize the importance of this.

Some members understand this advice right away, based on their past experience or our blog entries.  From our correspondence with our members, we also know that some other members refuse to follow our advice.  Let us be as clear as possible – we believe that any relationship in which any money is sent before the two people have met in person, will not work.

We thought we’d make a list of the reasons a person might ask another member for money.  Every single one of these reasons is a manipulation.  No decent person would ever provide tall tales like these to fool people into sending them money.

  • I need money to study.
  • I need money to eat.
  • My family is starving.
  • There was just a typhoon, and my family’s house has been washed away.
  • The caribou water buffalo died.
  • The rice rotted.
  • I loaned my family money, and now I owe them.
  • I need a new phone to call you.
  • I need a computer to write to you.
  • I need a better apartment so that you will respect me when you come here.
  • The police are demanding a bribe.
  • My mother is about to die due to lack of medicine, and they won’t even give her an antibiotic.
  • My brother wants to start a business.
  • My sister is about to give birth.
  • My tuition payment was stolen.
  • The jeepney driver broke my phone.
  • The police confiscated my brother’s hubel hubel motorcycle and now we can’t earn money.
  • I need to get a passport before I meet you.
  • I can get a visa to come to your country.
  • I can get a visa to meet you in another country.
  • I need documents in order to process your visa.
  • I need an engagement ring.
  • I need to start processing the papers for our engagement.
  • My parents are demanding a dowry.
  • I want to give my parents a gift.
  • I already have a loan at the cybercafe and I have to pay for it.
  • My father has a loan due to gambling at the cock-fight, and if I don’t repay it, our house will be repossessed.
  • I need load for my phone so that I can receive your call.
  • I need to buy a new phone for international calls.
  • I need to process a business application to get a good job and they require me to buy the uniform.

We could go on with this list for a very long time.   There is no end of pretexts that people can come up with to try to solicit money.  Just say no.  Here are a few questions and answers on the topic as well.

What should you do when someone you’ve met at our site asks you for money? Our suggestion to you is that you simply send us their user number with our feedback link, and then you correspond with other members instead.  We will investigate it, and in most cases we suspend the user profile. We do not allow anyone to ask for money using our site; we do not think people who ask for money directly or indirectly are ready for relationship (at best) and are often fraudsters or criminals.   We do our best to screen for these types of users, but we also rely on our members to report violations to us to help us keep our members honest.

But is it OK if one person initiates a gift to the other without a request? We hear this all the time.  One member wants to help another member.   Please do not do it.  If you want to send money to the Philippines, please donate it to the Philippine Red Cross.  Visit the Red Cross donations page to make your donation.  They will do a much better job than you can from far away, seeing to it that your donation goes to the neediest people at the times when it is most likely to make a difference.

But we’ve been chatting now for a few weeks.  I just want to give her a phone so I can call. This is also common.  Our advice is don’t do it. By sending money before you have met someone, even just a few dollars, you are risking ruining a potentially good connection.  As soon as someone receives money, then the pressure from family and friends to think of you as an ATM machine starts.  Just don’t risk it.  Save the money, and buy a plane ticket to go visit as soon as possible.  We insist – don’t send money to someone you haven’t met, under any circumstances, for any reason, period.

But I want to surprise her with something nice.  Send her flowers.  You can search for ’send flowers to the philippines’ on the internet.

If you are ever wondering, “Is this story legitimate, should I send money to this person I met at Christian Filipina”, if you don’t know the answer yet after reading this, just call us or send us an email, and we will talk to you about the particular situation and give you our advice.

Remember, the people who will be most quick to contact you on any dating website will almost always be the criminal scammers.  They work 24 hours a day creating fake profiles and trying to trick others to send money.  Learn to accept that this kind of person may contact you, and just report it, and move on.  As you take your time to get to know more of our members, you’ll find that we have many professional, innocent, and sincere ladies.  They may be more shy, you may need to take the initiative to contact them.  We have thousands and thousands of quality ladies who would never ask for money.  Don’t let the drama of a misguided person prevent you from meeting the sincere partner you deserve.  Take your time, quickly discard any letters from those who don’t deserve your attention, and be patient to slowly get to know five or ten ladies from our site, so that when you plan a trip (hopefully, soon), you can meet three to five in person as friends, to know in person which one deserves your company.

Jen and Peter

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17 February
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Top Mistakes in Dating Filipinas

scantily clad Filipina

Getting Excited for the Wrong Reasons Isn't Wise in the Long Run

Since before we met even, we’ve been observing men and women who come from different countries meet, and in many cases get married.  We met and are happily married.  We’ve seen and heard a lot of stories, and based on it, we’ve come up with a list of top mistakes in dating Filipinas.  Before we get into this list, we want to be clear that when we say we are an online dating site, we mean that we are a site where people can meet to become friends first.  We do not believe in premarital or extramarital sex, don’t encourage it, and don’t recommend it. We do believe in commitment, marriage, and family, and when the right person is there, we encourage it.   Some people who have visited other sites with many Filipina members at times get confused and think that online dating must be immoral because we encourage casual sex (we certainly don’t).  Maybe other people or other sites have different definitions of online dating.  We encourage you to find a site where the owners and other members share your basic assumptions about this.

Dishonesty - We believe that for two people to join to form something greater, that honesty is important, and dishonesty is a dangerous poison.  We strongly encourage our members that when they are corresponding or chatting, take the time to make sure what you are saying is true.  Even if you are afraid you might disappoint someone else, it’s far better to be honest from the beginning, rather than start a life based on a lie.  We believe that honesty is the way to develop trust and love, and that dishonesty interferes with our ability to trust and love one another.  If what you are looking for is power, sex, money, or status, I’m sorry but that’s not compatible with the atmosphere we try to nourish here.  We encourage those who seek to fulfill the guidance to love one another, and who believe that requires honesty, to take the time to join our site and meet fellow believers.

Obsession With Appearances – We recommend that our members focus more on profile text, and messages, rather than photographs.  First of all, this is because as much as we would like to be able to guarantee that a member’s photos are of the member, we can’t guarantee that, and we know for a fact that some members post pictures of other people.  But most of our members who have posted photos are posting photos of themselves.  Yet we still recommend that our members do not pay the photos much attention.  One of the less-appreciated aspects of human relations is that single people might look less attractive because they feel loney; but later in the company of a caring partner, they may blossom through confidence to be more attractive in the eyes of anyone who was paying attention.  On this same topic, about once a week, we get an email from one of our gentleman who is inquiring about a lady from our site, and when we look at the lady’s profile, we see a picture that looks like it could be from an advertisement for bikinis, full of curves or cleavage.  (We delete the pictures immediately.)  We believe that these kinds of pictures are not of ladies who are mature enough to have healthy relations of any kind with anyone.  We recommend you avoid them.  Unless you are a man who is obsessed with his own appearances, who cares more about his looks than his actions, then you will have a values conflict with a lady who is obsessed with her appearance.  It’s important to think about what your values are, and to find people who have compatible values.  This is much more important than trying to meet people who remind us of advertising models.

Getting Too Excited About Easy, Outgoing Ladies - It’s natural that we can get excited if we write a note and the recipient responds very quickly.  But is that actually a good sign?  More likely, if you get a response right away, you’re dealing with a professional scammer who is spending all day at the computer.  It’s actually a much better sign if you have to wait a day or two for a response.  Likewise, if you find yourself very excited because someone is very outgoing, forward, and not shy, not humble, you might want to take things a bit more slowly.  Many of our finest ladies are conservative and/or shy.  They may not want to post photos of themselves, they may not have any experience with meeting men in a context like this, and might be shy and more innocent.  This doesn’t mean they are not worth getting to know, however.  But it does mean you might need to make more of an effort.  Think about it.  The ladies who are very upfront, outgoing, aggressive even, might be easy;but do you think they will be faithful, humble, obedient?  We recommend that our members should make a special effort to write to especially those members who don’t have pictures and who might have short descriptions.  It only takes a few moments to write a short message, and you never know what beautiful gem you might find hidden beneath modesty.

Sending Money - We believe that a person who is not responsible for his or her own financial situation isn’t ready to look for a partner.    You may have even been tricked by someone who isn’t the one in the pictures, who may not even have the name or even gender or ethnicity of the one you believe you’re talking to.  We strongly discourage our members from sending money to anyone they meet online who they have not yet met.  In fact, it’s against our terms of service to request another member send money.  Please report any member who does this, whether it’s in a private message in our site, in our chat, or in a message or chat on another service.  We suspend these members immediately, as they have nothing to offer our membership.  If any member asks you to send money, whether it’s for internet fees, clothes, food, medicine, cell phone, debt, tuition, or anything else, just say no —  forward the message to us, forget about that person, and move on.  We have thousands upon thousands of quality members, and there’s no use wasting one more minute of your time if you’ve found that one of your chat mates behaves in this way.  There is no excuse for it.  If you have any questions, please email or call us.

Failing to Verify Basic Identity And Other Web-Chat Mistakes- We offer a webcam chat service for our upgraded members.  Other services, like yahoo and skype and gmail, also offer chat services that allow you to see another person on webcam.  (We believe ours is the best option for our members, because when you chat using our service, you do not need to share your messenger address with others, and you are protected by our terms of service.  If you give out your yahoo or skype id, you may find that it can be sent from person to person, and you may receive everything from solicitations for paid cam sex to bank card fraud.  We encourage you to use our site for your messages and chats, because other members will be held accountable for what they say to you and they will be suspended if they break our terms of service.  If someone asks you to leave our site for whatever reason to go to another chat service, and then solicits money there, simply report the member, and we will suspend them from our site.  We have a zero tolerance policy for this.)  In any case, you should always be sure to chat with any new contact using some form of webcam chat.  You should verify that they are the person from the pictures, and you should verify that they are the one typing.  Before I met my wife, I personally had an experience where I thought I was chatting with a person online, but was not careful, and then when I actually met the person, it became clear that she hadn’t been typing at all – she didn’t know how to type or even read or speak English – and that one of her friends had been typing while she sat at the webcam.  This stuff happens, and you need to insist that you see the hands of the person you are typing with at least once, to see that they are typing.  While you are chatting, you should also pay careful attention — is your chat mate also trying to chat with other people at the same time?  If so, forget about her, and find someone who gives you the attention you deserve.

Trying to Impress the Parents / Failing to Be Romantic / Taking it Too Fast In Person – While it’s definitely true that family ties are close in the Philippines, and that the opinions of family members are important, if you are chatting with a lady, or meet her in person, remember to be romantic with her!  Bring her a flower, or a card, tell her she is beautiful, listen to her and talk to her, wink at her.   In general, don’t be the one to bring up talking with anyone in her family about a developing affection.  If she brings that up, ok, but you should talk about your affection with her, not them, and allow it to develop by talking with her about it or just spending time with her.  Most likely she’ll always bring along someone from her family when you meet anyway.  You can talk with the others, but remember that she’s your focus.  If you’re still just meeting for the first or second time, you don’t have to be overly romantic.  Just one flower and one nice comment is enough.  More can be overwhelming.  Just take it easy.  Meet for a short meal, and then go your own separate ways, and later arrange for another meeting a few days later.  When you first meet in person after meeting online, it will take some time to adjust.  It’s like starting all over, so take it from the top.  Ask important questions, but ask them casually, questions about her education, family history, family obligations, experience with travel.  Don’t ask anything that might be too embarrassing in front of her friends or family.

Falling In Love Online Without Meeting In Person - We recommend to our members who are serious to meet someone in the Philippines, that they plan a trip.  Perhaps a two-week trip three months away.   Then try to meet five to ten people online as friends who you’d like to meet in person.  When you meet them in person on your trip, you can see whether what you had inferred or been told was correct, and see what feels comfortable.  You can even take notes; there’s nothing wrong with being careful and disciplined at such an important time.  A respectable Filipina would never object to you being careful and deliberate.   Don’t rush into passion right away.  Try to make sure you have a match of values first.  Is it more important to live for the present, or plan for the future?  Children?  What church?  Do you like gardening, or prefer spending time at the computer or in the library?  Riding Harleys, scooters, public transportation, new BMWs, or ratty old cars?  Of course many people can embrace new aspects of life when they meet new people, but make sure there is also enough foundation of commonality.  We have had members who have met online and then not met any other members, just stuck with the first person they’ve met, and it’s turned out well for them.  If this is God’s plan, then we can’t object.  But we nevertheless think God would still approve of a couple that is meant to be, even if both parties are careful and deliberate and cautious, taking it one step at a time.

Trying To Be Too Cheap - Let’s face it, there are a lot of expenses that are involved in relationships.  Transportation, potential visa costs, travel expenses, time off, relocation expenses.  If it’s between continents, it’s thousands and thousands of dollars, plus months or even years of time.  We have members who try to use their free-level membership as long as possible, or who even try to violate our terms of service and exchange contact information while still free members.  Friends!  Twenty dollars, or fifty, or even a hundred dollars, that you dedicate to membership in a quality website like ours with attentive customer service and thousands of quality members is worth every penny.  So go ahead and upgrade to one of our top membership levels; there’s no need to delay to save a few dollars.  The same thing goes for your first time to meet in person.  Don’t worry if you’re buying lunch for three or four people.  You don’t need to go to an expensive place, and you can set a clear budget – 300 peso to 1000 peso depending on the number of people attending and your lifestyle – but it’s ok to spend something to enjoy the company and the service.

If you have any other tips of “top mistakes” you have heard about, feel free to write to us, or add them as comments so that others can benefit from your experience.

Peter and Jen

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10 February
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How to Start Conversations

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Is it really that easy? Yes, just start simple!

Some of our members aren’t sure how to start a conversation with other members of our site.  Our advice is to start with short but meaningful messages.

For instance, if you come across a profile of a member you’d like to meet, we thing it’s quite reasonable to send a message like, “Hi, I came across your profile.  I appreciated what you said about [...].  Would you like to correspond? -Bill” or “Hi, I came across your profile.  You are listed as being 80 years old.  But your picture looks 30.  Why did you enter your age as 80? -Dieter” or “Hi, I noticed you’re looking to meet someone 25-45.  Well, I’m slightly outside your age range, so I’d like to know how flexible you are about that age item. -Lyn” or “Hi, I’d like to chat; if you don’t mind me asking, how often do you attend Church?”

We also think it’s a good idea to send winks to other members, especially if you are a free member who is only allowed 2 messages per day.  A wink is an indication that you liked something you noticed in a person’s profile.  Maybe the person will wink back, or maybe they will write a note back, or maybe not.  Even free level members are allowed many winks per day, so it’s an easy way to take the first step.

We do not encourage our members to write too much in their first messages.  If you have a lot to say, it might be effective to offer that as a silent prayer rather than a letter.  For the person sending the message, we think sending too long a message as a first step can build an emotional attachment that is inappropriate given that you still don’t know the other person.  For the person receiving, it can be overwhelming to receive too long a letter.  We believe it’s better to start with a short message that has some personalized content noted based on the profile.  Of course, it’s up to you.

Peter

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01 February
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Help us make videos about Christian Filipina for a free upgrade!

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Do you like videos and love our website? Help us publicize our site, and we'll give you a complimentary upgraded membership.

Because we understand the financial challenge for some of our members in upgrading their memberships, we have decided to offer another possibility, for men or women, from any country: help us make videos about our website for video sharing sites like youtube.com.

We are going to start out with the following terms, although we may adjust these in the future: If you act in a video, we will give you a complimentary 7-day or 30-day upgraded membership depending on the length of the video.  If you produce the video yourself and load it to youtube.com or another video sharing site, we’ll give you a complimentary 7-day, 30-day, 90-day, or 180-day membership depending on the number of views (100 views 7-day;1,000 views 30-day; 10,000 views 90-day; 50,000 views 180-day).

We do ask that the video should be about our site.  It could explain your reasons for joining the site, for instance.  Or if you would like, you could make screencasts to show how to use the site features.  If we like the videos, with your permission, we may even feature them on the site, as well as having them in youtube (or any other video sharing site where you post the videos).

If you live near Manila, it may be convenient for you to work with Mary Ann, who is one of our staff who will be making some videos in Manila in February and March this year.  If you would like to be in one of her videos, please write to christianfilipina@hotmail.com to set up a place and time to take a video describing why you chose to join Christian-Filipina.com and what you like about the site.  We can’t promise that Mary Ann will have time to feature all our members who wish to appear in her videos, but please do write to her if you would like to try to set up a time.  If you can’t, don’t forget to use your cell phone or video camera to create your own videos and help spread the word.

After you’ve created your video, just email us using the feedback link from our site so we can watch the video.

Thanks to all of you who are members of the site.

Peter

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