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27 January
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Planning A Trip to the Philippines

We strongly recommend to our members from outside the Philippines to visit the country, if possible several times.  It is a great chance to meet people, and it is a great country to visit.

Overall, most of the Philippines is safe, and the Filipino people are friendly to visitors.

You can find many resources on visiting, from a US government guide, to Wikitravel Philippines, and dozens of guidebooks and websites. You can also review forums such as Philippines Living or the many other forums for visitors to and residents of the Philippines.

Some of our members ask about the best time of year to visit.  But our opinion is that anytime can be fine.  The rainy and dry seasons in the Philippines are not as distinct as in some tropical countries, so even the rainy season is not always rainy and the dry season also is not completely without rain.  During summer and fall months, there is increased risks of typhoons which can be an inconvenience.  But our opinion is that for most people the experience is worth the inconvenience.

There are many old and new things to see first-hand in the Philippines

The two typical entry points into the Philippines are either Manila or Cebu, but these are not the only two cities you can fly to.  There are direct flights into other airports as well, and you can also get an international ticket which includes a domestic segment to connect you to another city, whether that is Dumaguete (where we met), or any of dozens of other cities in any other province.

If you have enough time, you might try to visit a few places.  And do try to experience both the city and the countryside.  Don’t try to find the cheapest hotels; something mid-range will still be quite cheap per night by most visitor’s standards and yet feel more comfortable for a visit.

The most important thing is to “just do it” and buy your tickets  - whether it is a week or a few weeks or even a month or more – go ahead, buy your tickets and go.  Then you can let any other members on our site know that you have a trip planned, and tell them you would like to meet casually in person.

When you are going to meet someone else from our site, remember to ask them to bring one or at most two people (depending on your comfort level) along to meet you in a public place for an inexpensive meal.  Don’t try to impress anyone by paying for an expensive meal; just stick to something simple to get started on the right foot in person indicating that personal values are more important to you than material ones.

If you have any other questions, feel free to add them to the comments, and we will do our best to answer your questions.

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28 April
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Should You Consider Living in the Philippines?

Many of our members write to us asking our opinion of living in the Philippines.  Since we did live there, we do have some experiences to share and some suggestions to offer.
As you should know from reading our past advice articles in our blog, common sense and visa issues both require a couple to spend time together in person.  Because the Philippines does not require a complicated visa for most people, it is usually the best place to meet first.  And the Philippines is definitely a great place to visit.  Many of our members also consider living in the Philippines.
We met in the Philippines, and we lived there in the Visaya region near Cebu for about a year together.  We considered staying longer.  But based on our own experience and what we learned from others, we decided process the visa to live in the USA. After processing the visa, we have now been living here in Hawaii, USA for almost two years.
There are hundreds of thousands of foreign men who live for a few years or more in the Philippines.  There are even a few foreign women who live in the Philippines.  However, in our experience the foreigners remain permanently outsiders, legally and culturally.  In part it is an isolation imposed by the Filipino culture and laws, and in part it is a self-imposed isolation from the rest of the Philippines.
Foreigners in the Philippines do not experience the same protection and rights (legally or practically) as Filipinos, in their country.  From the laws about land ownership (foreigners are prohibited from land ownership and ownership of controlling interests in most businesses) to police service, the foreigner in the Philippines is not entitled to the rights or protection he often expects for himself.  Additionally, the hardships of life in the Philippines (high crime, unreliable utilities, needy families) force most foreigners to set create their own boundaries and infrastructure.
Here in Hawaii, when we go to the Department of Motor Vehicles, to transfer a car title, we pay 5 dollars, and within 5 minutes we have a new title in our name.  In the Philippines, this would take either days at the corresponding offices (if not months), or employing a “fixer” who would do some combination of waiting and bribing in order to process the paperwork.  The same story applies to land ownership and processing of other papers, many of which will be required for a marriage license and passport application.  Of course these issues are not unique to the Philippines.  Living in Central America, Africa, or many other places in Asia would generally be similar, based on our research.
Another consideration we had in mind was whether to have children born and raised in the Philippines.  We heard too many stories of doctors who routinely pushed high percentages of expectant mothers into the operating room for caesareans if they believed the mother had the funds to pay for this more expensive form of birth, regardless as to whether there was any indication that a normal birth would have complications.
So, these issues, and the isolation they require in order for a foreigner to maintain sanity living long-term in the Philippines, are significant.  They must be weighed against the benefits of living in the Philippines: warm weather; inexpensive rent, public transportation, dental work, and food; a sense of popularity; a good chance to meet a sincere Christian Filipina; beautiful islands and beaches; delicious and abundance mango, coconut, and other fruits.
In summary, our recommendation is that it is nice to visit the Philippines, and can also be a pleasant place to rent a small apartment for several months or perhaps up to a year if your schedule allows.  It gives an opportunity to get to know a Filipina and to be married and to be together for some time in her place.  However, we do not recommend putting the cart before the horse and committing yourself to living permanently in the Philippines before living there for six months or more on an experimental basis.  And in most cases, we believe most foreigners and their wives will ultimately be happier back in their own countries.
If you would like to research more on this topic, there are dozens of other web sites and groups on the topic of foreigners living in the Philippines.  We do warn you to be careful, because many of them are closely censored by their website owners who seek to present their own specific idea of what the Philippines is.  Actually we did also start a forum about living in the Philippines which you are welcome to review, and if you wish, to join.  We started it a few years ago when we still lived in the Philippines, and it has not been very active since we left there.
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02 March
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Things You Should Never, Ever, Ever Do

We have said most of this before in previous blogs, but once again we have to remind our members about some of our most important recommendations.  Here is what you should not do, and what else to do instead.

do not do this in online dating (stop hand)

Never Send Money To Any Online Contact You Have Not Met In Person, Or To Any Third Party

Our site is the best site for meeting sincere Christians in Asia. We have thousands of members who join every month from dozens of countries around the world. Most of them are sincere people. However, every day we have insincere, and even outright malicious persons who join our site to attempt to defraud others and take advantage of them.  We have learned many of the patterns of these kinds of people, and when we review every new profile and every profile change, we permanently suspend all that we find to be inappropriate.  In addition, when one of them slips past our review, our members alert us to it when they notice something suspicious.  So we have the fewest percentage of insincere and criminal members of any dating site we know of.  But in case you are ever asked to send money to someone you met through our site (or any site), before you meet in person, you absolutely should not do it.  Nor should you send money to a “travel agent”, “visa service”, “package delivery service”, or any other third party.  These are all scams.  If you are ever asked to do this from someone you met on our site, or are ever tempted to send money for any reason, do not do it.  What you should do instead is to immediately inform us, by sending us an email, and telling us the user number of the person who asked for money, and sending us any communication that might help us understand the situation.

Never Ask For Money From Another Person You Have Not Met In Person

When our members join the site, they agree to our terms of service.  Our terms state that it is against our rules to solicit money from anyone else on the site.  If you are reported for violating these terms, we will suspend your account, and we will not allow you to open another account.  Instead, you should make sure that you never ask any other member of our site to send money to you or to anyone else.  Our site is for making friends, and we believe new friends do not ask each other for money.

Never Fall In Love With Someone You Have Not Met In Person

We have stated clearly in our suggestions that our site is for meeting friends.  We are very happy to have singles join our site, and we do hope that many will go from being friends to committed husband and wife.  Indeed, we have received hundreds of testimonials from members who have met on our site and now have joined as husband and wife.  But we suggest that you should not rush the process. Do not try to find the cheapest, quickest way to get married.  It will be more expensive and more painful in the long run if you misprioritize this.   Instead, what we recommend is that you meet and get to know as friends 3-10 people as friends from our site.  Then meet as many of them as possible in person as friends before you consider which indeed shares your values well enough to spend more time together.  For many of our men, this might mean taking an extra trip, as we find that our men tend to be the ones who can and do travel when meetings actually take place.  But in the long run, taking the extra time is going to be worth it.  Or if you have enough time, you can take a very long first trip.  For our ladies, our advice is also to not fall in love, or even be committed to, people they have not met in person.  Absolutely encourage each other to prioritize a personal meeting, but we do not encourage you to ask each other to be exclusive before meeting in person.  Take it slowly.  Be 100% honest.  When the time comes, after you have met in person, that might be a time to talk about being exclusive if you are ready for it and have shared values. But until you have met in person, don’t fall in love.  Friends first.

Never Give Up Without Contacting Us With Your Concerns First

When our members cancel their accounts, we ask them to fill our a small form so we know their reasons for canceling.  Often, it’s because they have met their special someone.  Sometimes, however, it’s because they have a concern.  Anything from being contacted by a scammer, or because they saw a man’s picture by mistake in the women’s section, or because their computer wasn’t able to log in sometimes, or because they feel our fees for upgraded memberships are not what they expected.  If you ever have a concern like this – or any other concern – please contact us. Use the feedback form at the bottom of any page of the main site.  Or from US/Canada call us up toll-free at 855-FIL-IPIN and talk to us, the owners of the site. We rely on feedback from our members to help maintain the site.  It’s a group effort, and it’s thanks to our members that the site is #1 for Christian dating in Asia.

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28 October
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A to Z Steps for Bringing Your Wife to the USA

image of US visa

Take Your Time, Be Realistic and Responsible, and You Can Get A Visa to the USA When You Are Ready

Since we met in the Philippines and then after our marriage moved to the USA, we have personal experience with the process of immigration to the USA. In addition, from the many people we have known in person and through the website, we have continued to learn about this process. Since many of our members ask us about this, we will share some of this information here. Our apologies to our many members from other countries that we do not have as much information in their respective countries of the details of immigration.

It is nearly impossible for any person from the Philippines to travel to the US on a tourist visa because of the requirement in the visa application process that they prove sufficient ties to their home country. There are very long lines every day outside the US embassy in Manila of hundreds of men and women who pay over $100 each to get a 2-minute opportunity to ask for a tourist visa, and almost all of them are immediately rejected because they are considered likely to overstay their tourist visas illegally.

For this reason, any US citizen who considers marriage with a Filipina should plan to get her a fiance or spousal visa and never waste time, money, or tears on attempting to get a tourist visa. Fiance and spousal visas to the US, in our experience, take 8-12 months to process from initial application to the final issuance of the visa. In order to even apply, the US citizen must have income or assets above a certain minimum. In addition, there must be recent photos of the couple together.

As we have written in previous blog entries, we recommend that our gentlemen plan a trip to meet several of our members in person as friends. Then after meeting in person, if one of those develops to the point of engagement or marriage, that’s the time to begin the process of the visa application (unless of course you intend to live together in the Philippines, which many couples do also).

Some of our members ask how much should they save in order to be ready for this process. While everyone’s experience is different, as a very rough guide, here is a minimal budget:

Airfare for one trip $1000
Expenses for one month $1000
Immigrant Visa application fees $1000
Travel expenses for your fiance/wife $1000

In our case, we also paid for an expert to help us with the visa application process, which was less than $1000. We have met some who prefer to do their own applications, but in our case we did not want to waste time with trying to second-guess the visa forms and preferred to have someone to help us get it right the first time.

Technically speaking, according to some interpretations of the immigrant visas, the US citizen is supposed to maintain a residence in the US while the visa is being processed. However, on a personal level, we feel that our choice to live together in the Philippines during that time was best for us. Consider your own situation, and figure out what is best for you.

We apologize if our blog post on this topic cannot answer the specific details of exact timelines (which can vary depending on your situation) or even budget. You can consult an expert or a lawyer or the immigration department website for more information when you get to the point of making your choices.

As one final note, we sometimes hear that a couple is considering whether to get married in the Philippines or the USA (or both), based on the implications for the visa. We think this is backwards and unnecessary. If you are ready, then consider what is right for the two of you before God and in the context of your families. The visas will be available for you whatever choice makes sense on a personal level.

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31 August
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An Example of a Scammer Targeting Ladies

Every single day, we have applications for members to our site from criminals who seek to prey on our members and steal from our members.  Usually, we have become quite good at recognizing their applications for membership.  And we deny them membership.  But sometimes we miss one of these criminals, and by mistake we allow them to be members of the site.  Here is an example of one of the criminals who joined our site about 1 week ago and tricked us.

The profile was for “Frederick Bundchen” who claimed to be from Elizabethtown, Kentucky, United States.  This is what he wrote in his profile:

I am patient,generous, kind, and loving. I am always upbeat, have a positive attitude about most things and I like to have fun. I like football,movies,swimming,dancing,cooking,singing in the choir at church,listening to music,shopping,taking walks at night and looking at the stars,watching the sunset,eating at a very nice restaurant and going to live concerts,theater, movies and art. I love to travel, and to go sightseeing. I love museums, romantic dinners,…..And I am a fun loving person who loves to laugh and make others laugh. I always try to enjoy the simple things in life,and not take anything for granted.I’ve a naturally curious mind and love to learn about peoples, cultures, and so many other things…I love romantic dinners,

The profile included pictures of a man, a woman, and a boy about 5 years old.

We approved this application for membership in the site.  Then the member upgraded the membership by paying using a credit card and began contacting members sending ladies his email address federickbundchen@yahoo.com.  When one of our lady members wrote to the man, he responded by claiming he wanted to hire a nanny and was going to help the lady get a visa to the USA to be the nanny.  Here are the emails he sent:

Hello Dear,

Thanks for your reply and interest in the job I am really willing to get a Driver and Nanny down to the US soon and I told you that i am going to Pay you 3,000Sdollars a month and that will be for the Up keep of Driver and Nanny to where ever. I have Duplex Building with 8 Bedrooms and 2 living rooms and that is all I Want you to take care of You’ll have a room to yourself with a complete Working system with internet facilities which Will enable you communicate with your friends And Family daily.
The reason why I need a driver and Nanny is because I will be moving out of city due to official duty .Now I have to go on a naval course for 6 months And I need a Driver and Nanny in aupair to take care of my kids I understand that you might not have your Visa processed yet and I have already discussed With the United state Immigration service about My intention to get the service of a Driver and Nanny to Take care of my kids while I am on national Duty…..Since I am a Naval officer and I hardly Stay at home…So this is how I intend to make Everything work…
I will give you the email of the immigration Office as well as my Naval license ID number so That they will know that I directed you to the Immigration office for the processing of your Visa…..I will take good care of your departure and arrival to the US when your Visa processing is Completed…But you will have to pay for your Visa registration fee yourself which cost about $225US.
This is because The Immigration has mandated it that the Applicant will address the Visa Registration fee because the payment Receipt will be attached to your papers and The name on it will be used for the processing of all your Papers….and when the processing get done,it will be sent to you via a courier service.More over alert will send to US immigration,US embassy and POEA in your home country as soon as your visa is ready and you will be call for interview .The reason why you have to pay for your Visa registration Yourself is because the immigration office has made it Compulsory that it is the applicant who pays for Her visa registration because I have once been Cheated by a Filipino whom I paid all her expense And when he got his papers, he did not show up to me…So the thing is this, i am going to help you mak sure that you get your visa at all cost. With my influence……I really need a honest and sincere person to work for me…. I think the registration fee for Asia foreigners hoping to work in the US is 225USdollars so that is all they will ask you to pay and the rest will be my doing about 4,700USdollar …I will check out Philippine Work abroad agencies and i will make sure all is set For you. This is all that I have planned down so if you are OK with it, do mail me back. But if you will ask Me to pay your Visa Registration fee for you, please Don’t write me back.Contact me back only if you are ready for this or Maybe I should just get someone else as this is Very important and urgent…Please get back to Me by email only.. I will be away for 6 months and you Will be the one taking care of my safety.
Mr Frederick B Underway Navy.
US Naval Officer

and also this message:

Thanks for your Kind message and interest to Go further with this offer.Immigration will only ask you to pay for visa registration fee which is $225US,I will be the one to pay for your visa placement and airfare total cost $4700US…now I am convinced that I have someone who Will be able to take care of my safety and my home….I am going to write the immigration office to notify them that you will be sending Application for Visa and other traveling Papers and i will have them linked up with you……
They already provided me with the opportunity to bring in 2 foreigner to the US and they have given me the serial code which I am going to give To you. And you will write to them by email and they will know that you are my client and I referred You to them…
I will give you their email and you will email them And tell them you were referred for your visa processing and immigration licensing From Mr……..of the US Naval force…And then you provide them with your immigrant serial code which is Ref: 3829-44632-us-28891-ph And include your full name and address.You are also going to be contacted by the department of foreign affairs over there in your home town and they will get you the necessary documents…..ok?
I am trying to make sure everything get arranged quickly And soon enough. This is the immigrations office E-mail…..
usimmigrationdesk@gmail.com
Contact them as soon as possible.
Take care
Best Regards
Mr Frederick B
US Naval Officer 140 barbara circle,Elizabethtown, Kentucky 42701

We were informed of this by one of our careful members who was suspicious about the email she had received.  When we investigated, we suspended the profile of the member immediately because it is clearly a criminal fraud.

As we have written previously many times, do not ever send money to anyone you have never met in person. This applies to men as well as to women.  If you ever have any of our members attempt to ask you for money, please write to us immediately so that we can investigate.

Over time, as our site becomes more popular, we know that more and more scammers will seek to break in.  We see criminal scammers claiming to be from Philippines, USA, Africa, England, China.  We continue to change the way our site works to make it more and more difficult for the scammers to take advantage of our members.  We believe that we have the largest percentage of sincere members of any Asian dating site, and the smallest percentage of insincere, scammers, and criminals, thanks to our custom improvements to our system, our dedication to educating our members about these issues, and to our members who immediately inform us when any other member attempts to trick them.  If you are curious sometime, you may want to visit and join some of the other dating sites and see for yourself how many criminals there are on the internet trying to fool other persons.

Remember, take your time when getting to know anyone, whether it’s someone you meet in person or on our site or on any other internet site.  And never send money to anyone you haven’t met in person.

**UPDATE 8/31/2010**

We just had another scammer who joined our site with a similar “nanny scam” scenario… As with some previous scammers, this member had a profile showing a man with a child.  As with previous apparently-male scammers, the user upgraded his membership with a payment, then sent the following message:

Hello,
My name is james evans,i am sorry for contacting you this way but i believed you are good christain.Am a single father with a son named Dennis Evans,i worked as a construction engineer but self employed and i lived in london.United kingdom.  So am in need of a babysitter for my son and i will be paying you the sum of 500 pounds weekly as your wages,so if you have interest in helping me look after my son and you do have a valid passport.  Send me a message me on my id james_evans00001@yahoo.com for more details of the job and do not take this message as insult if its looks beyond your standard.

James

We have not yet heard of any of our ladies who has fallen prey to any of these scammers who have tried to infiltrate our site.  We hope that we continue with that record, and in order to do so we commit to continuing to educate all of our members about the fraudsters who attempt to join our site, and we commit to continue our high degree of vigilance of our members who apply to join our site.  If at some time, an honest person has his or her profile suspended, we apologize for this.  If this happens to you, please calmly contact us through our feedback form and/or email so that we can investigate closely and fix any error we might make.  We do our best to identify suspicious profiles and research them carefully to suspend them as soon as possible.  Now after reading some of the stories, we hope you understand why we are so careful, occasionally even to a fault.

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19 July
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Cotabato and Mindanao

Over the past year, we have kept an informal record of scammers who have been identified on our site.  We have had scammers claiming to be from the Philippines, the U.S., U.K., Nigeria, and elsewhere, some of whom we know are really from the places they claim to be from, and some whom are not.  We do our best both to remove scammers from our site and to educate our members about this important subject so that they can avoid emotional and financial traps.  As soon as we are sure about any new intelligence, we post it in our letters and blogs, for all our members to read.

Muslim Ladies at a Computer in the Philippines

Insist On Webcam Chat. Don't Get Tricked!

We have found that ladies from the area of Mindanao tend to be more likely to be scammers, and in particular, those from Cotabato.  All things considered, with the increased quantity of scammers from this area and the increased risks of violence in Mindanao, we now recommend that our members exercise extreme caution with any person from this region.

The behaviors we have seen in the scammers that characterize Cotabato and Mindanao are typical of Philippine scams: fake photos; reluctance to appear on webcam; requests to purchase webcams, computers, cell phones; premature declarations of love; preference for chatting on yahoo messenger rather than on our site; insistence on needing money for many different reasons; form letters; being online all the time; suggestion to circumvent immigration laws; request for excessive money to correct passport or birth certificate problems; they can be of any age but tend to be young, sometimes even in violation of our terms of service they are under 18 and lie about their age on their profile.

We also, however, want to draw your attention to some conversations we have had with one of our contacts who shared with us some of his experience with meeting people from Cotabato in the past.  In these conversations, we learned that some of the ladies claiming to be from Davao, Zamboanga, and elsewhere in Mindanao were actually in or from Cotabato.  This reinforced what we have observed as well.  Even more absurd, many of these ladies who claim to be Catholic or Christian from these areas are actually Muslim.  Many of the Muslims are part of a Muslim clan called Ampatuan which you can read about on your own.  They view outsiders who are not from their clan as enemies and are taught by teachers and parents to steal from enemies as part of holy war.  They are taught that laws of behavior do not apply to the way they treat those outside their clan.  They also work in teams, coming up with schemes to solicit funds; who you talk to one day on a YM might be a different person from the day before which might be a different person from who answers a phone; and a different person may occasionally do a webcam chat and/or receive money sent.  When they are successful, the money that is sent does not go to the poor children or education or medicine, but to the politicians and religious leaders directly, with only a possible commission going to the web scam team.

In this context, we reiterate our guideline recommendations for our members:

  • insist on chatting on webcam with those you meet online
  • do not send any money to anyone you have met online who you have never met in person
  • chat on our christian-filipina.com chat service, rather than yahoo messenger
  • familiarize yourself with all of our blog entries, and with stories from others at other sites like dragonladies.org
  • if any member ever asks you directly or indirectly for money, report it immediately from their profile page with the ‘report a problem’ feature
  • if you have any questions, please email us using the feedback link; if your question involves another member, send it from their profile page

(Added July 20 — ) One final note, we had previously written about one of the scammers from Mindanao, Rosebel (also known as many other names) — here is our previous entry about the scammer Rosebel Fajardo from Mindanao.  After a hiatus, she (or “she” as the case may be, we have no idea of the true identity or identities) has resurfaced, creating at least two profiles in the past week here on our site, one going by “Kiszle” and another as “Lady” but always using her same famous pictures, and lofty lies.  No doubt she’ll be back; we hope to catch her before her profile goes live, but if she tricks us and you notice her here again, please be sure to let us know!

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03 June
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Do Women Get Scammed on Dating Websites?

We’ve devoted several articles in our blog to men who have been scammed by women (or at least they believed they were scammed by women). But we also think it’s important to caution the ladies. Almost every day we reject members who appear to be advertising a nanny scheme.

Most often the profiles we reject from this category claim to be from the U.K. but actually many of this type of scammer are from Nigeria and sometimes other countries in Africa. Those in Nigeria often work with other scammers in U.K. or other countries to create a network of liars who claim to be ready to help ladies get a job as a nanny taking care of children. Since we prohibit this use of our site in any case, we reject these profiles immediately. However, we believe that the intent of these individuals is not to hire nannies at all.   At “best” we believe it is a type of advanced fee fraud, where the ladies will be required to send money in advance to process paperwork – but in fact this money would simply be stolen by the scammers. At worst, the scammers could have something even worse in mind. We have also heard of a type of fraud from another dating website that we described this December blog entry about scammers.  In that case, supposedly a person (also from U.K.) supposedly sent a package.  We believe that actually no package was ever sent, and the victim was going to be asked to send money to help with a problem in the shipping process. Then just a few days ago we noticed in the comments of our recent article describing a specific scam profile that had been on our site, a reference to a scam that apparently had occurred here.  Once again, the scammer claimed to be from the U.K.  Actually that is the first reference we have heard to women being scammed on our site, so we feel quite bad about it. Ladies, remember that you also need to be careful.  No matter the excuse or story, do not send money to anyone you have never met in person, period.  If you ever find yourself in a situation where you are considering this, please write to us right away using the feedback link on the bottom of our website pages and ask whether we think the situation is suspicious. And if ladies or gentlemen are asked by any other member of the site for money, please write to us immediately and send us the user number and if possible the full text of the message.  We will investigate, and in most cases we can learn from your message and other information we store on the site whether that person is a scammer or not. As always, if you have any comments to add relating to this topic, please feel free to add a comment to this article.

We have also heard of a type of fraud from another dating website that we described this December blog entry about scammers. In that case, supposedly a person (also from U.K.) supposedly sent a package. We believe that actually no package was ever sent, and the victim was going to be asked to send money to help with a problem in the shipping process.

Then just a few days ago we noticed in the comments of our recent article describing a specific scam profile that had been on our site, a reference to a scam that apparently had occurred here. Once again, the scammer claimed to be from the U.K. Actually that is the first reference we have heard to women actually being scammed on our site, so we feel quite bad about it.

Ladies, remember that you also need to be careful. No matter the excuse or story, do not send money to anyone you have never met in person, period. If you ever find yourself in a situation where you are considering this, please write to us right away using the feedback link on the bottom of our website pages and ask whether we think the situation is suspicious.

And if ladies or gentlemen are asked by any other member of the site for money, please write to us immediately and send us the user number and if possible the full text of the message. We will investigate, and in most cases we can learn from your message and other information we store on the site whether that person is a scammer or not.

As always, if you have any comments to add relating to this topic, please feel free to add a comment to this article.

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18 May
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A Profile of a Repeat Scammer From Mindanao, Philippines

Scammer Monique Rosebel Fajardo

Beware Scammers Who Use Pictures Like This One

We have several criminals who repeatedly create profiles on our site to solicit money from our members.  Most of the profiles they attempt to create never go live on the site, because we eliminate them in the approval process.  However, from time to time we miss one.  Here is an example of one we missed recently.  We are ashamed that we missed this one, because this individual has already stolen thousands of dollars from members at our site.  Her name goes by various phrasings of a common theme, and her profiles with ages in the 20s have phrases like “Relationships are just like a receipe or a mirror. What ever you put in you will get back. Just to let you know. I am a Christian. However, I don`t practice my faith like others.” and “My future man may go to church as he feels necessary though ~>Someone who believes in UNCONDITIONAL LOVE When you need someone to encourage you, I want it to be me.”  In other words, this scammer and others like her know exactly what to write to appear sincere, and yet she is a deceitful person.  She even has phrases like, “I VALUE NOTHING MORE THAN HONESTY ! IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF EVERY SOLID RELATIONSHIP AND ENCOURAGES TRUST AND RESPECT ! I DESPISE LIARS !LOVE IS NOT WONDERING HOW LONG IT WILL LAST BUT HOW STRONG 2 HEARTS CAN MAKE IT GROW!”  How many innocent men has she charmed with these borrowed phrases?  We suspect that based on the money she has stolen from members of this site and probably other sites, this criminal steals around $20,000 per year.  Don’t let yourself be one of the victims of this person or anyone like her.

This individual represents the epitome of the criminals who live by taking advantage of others.  Here is an example of one of her emails to one member:

First of all, I want to thank you for reviewing my profile and reading my Personalized Introductory Letter. I know it’s not possible to tell everything about ourselves in just one email.

First let me tell you that I am serious about finding a man to marry. I’m not looking for a pen pal, etc. All I’m looking for is a man that’s sincere about developing a loving, honest, open relationship that might lead to a future marriage. That sounds simple doesn’t it? We both know something as big as getting married never really is all that easy though. Not if you want to do the best you can and make sure you’re finding that special someone you can love and spend the rest of your life with.

if you like to connect or to have a fruitful communications this is my email address were we cant start getting to know each others well..my private email monique.fajardo20@yahoo.com let me know if you email me..okay..

Affectionately yours,
Rosebel

Monique Fajardo - Rosebel

Typical Indecent Picture - Any Member Who Is Not Modest, Who Posts Pictures With Revealed Shoulders or Legs on A Christian Site, Is Not Respectful

Some items that should immediately raise your suspicion:

  1. she attempts to include a personal email in an initial contact.  Contact information like this is prohibited in exchanges between free level members according to our terms of service.  Indeed, we catch many scammers based on this, followed by additional research.  We strongly encourage you to never give out your email address or to contact any other member except through the site’s messaging and chat features.  This is because the criminals like this one know we monitor site communications, so they attempt as quickly as possible to get away from the site that they can fool our members without us catching them.
  2. her pictures are indecent and vain
  3. she’s too confident and formal; clearly she’s sending a form letter
  4. she just joined recently

What should you do if you encounter someone you think is a scammer?

  1. If you aren’t sure, you can always email the site owners to ask their opinion – use the Feedback link at the bottom of the page, or reply to any email message from the site
  2. Always use our site for communication, and have a firm rule against giving out your personal contact information
  3. Inform anyone you are chatting with right away that you have a firm rule against sending money to someone you have not met in person
  4. If any member solicits money directly or indirectly plays a guilt game, please forward us the message or text and allow us to take appropriate action.

What should you do if you get tricked by a scammer?

  1. Maybe you did not take our advice and decided to send money to someone you met over the internet.  Most likely it did not work out, because it is not the right way to start a mature relationship.  It’s time to learn a lesson.  Don’t do it again.  Please inform us if this happens to you, so that we can permanently remove the member’s profile.  Remember, if anyone comes up with a tall tale about needing money for an operation, or school, or medicine, etc, etc, it is simply a lie.  The same thing goes for sending money for any scheme to try to do some business venture in Nigeria or anywhere else.  It’s simply a vacuous sales pitch.
  2. Next time, take our advice – write in your profile (or in your messages) that you have a firm rule against sending money to people you have not met; plan a trip to the Philippines where you will meet several people, and don’t send any money or become emotionally involved with any one until you’ve had the chance to meet several people in person.
  3. Take it easy on yourself.  Maybe you lost a lot of money.  Ok, let it go.  It has happened to many other people also.  You are not alone.  We know it hurts.  If it didn’t, you might not be able to learn from it.  Let it go, move on, and be more careful next time.
  4. And by all means, if you ever meet someone like this again in person or over the internet, just say, “Sorry, I’ve got to go,” turn around, and go somewhere else to meet people who are more deserving of your company.
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03 April
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Don’t Send Money To Someone You’ve Never Met

Offer Your Companionship, But Keep Your Money

Don't confuse charity and love. Offer your companionship but keep your cash.

We’ve written about how we prohibit any of our members from soliciting money through our website.  We’ve also written about how we strongly recommend that our members do not ever send money to someone they have not met in person.  We want to emphasize the importance of this.

Some members understand this advice right away, based on their past experience or our blog entries.  From our correspondence with our members, we also know that some other members refuse to follow our advice.  Let us be as clear as possible – we believe that any relationship in which any money is sent before the two people have met in person, will not work.

We thought we’d make a list of the reasons a person might ask another member for money.  Every single one of these reasons is a manipulation.  No decent person would ever provide tall tales like these to fool people into sending them money.

  • I need money to study.
  • I need money to eat.
  • My family is starving.
  • There was just a typhoon, and my family’s house has been washed away.
  • The caribou water buffalo died.
  • The rice rotted.
  • I loaned my family money, and now I owe them.
  • I need a new phone to call you.
  • I need a computer to write to you.
  • I need a better apartment so that you will respect me when you come here.
  • The police are demanding a bribe.
  • My mother is about to die due to lack of medicine, and they won’t even give her an antibiotic.
  • My brother wants to start a business.
  • My sister is about to give birth.
  • My tuition payment was stolen.
  • The jeepney driver broke my phone.
  • The police confiscated my brother’s hubel hubel motorcycle and now we can’t earn money.
  • I need to get a passport before I meet you.
  • I can get a visa to come to your country.
  • I can get a visa to meet you in another country.
  • I need documents in order to process your visa.
  • I need an engagement ring.
  • I need to start processing the papers for our engagement.
  • My parents are demanding a dowry.
  • I want to give my parents a gift.
  • I already have a loan at the cybercafe and I have to pay for it.
  • My father has a loan due to gambling at the cock-fight, and if I don’t repay it, our house will be repossessed.
  • I need load for my phone so that I can receive your call.
  • I need to buy a new phone for international calls.
  • I need to process a business application to get a good job and they require me to buy the uniform.

We could go on with this list for a very long time.   There is no end of pretexts that people can come up with to try to solicit money.  Just say no.  Here are a few questions and answers on the topic as well.

What should you do when someone you’ve met at our site asks you for money? Our suggestion to you is that you simply send us their user number with our feedback link, and then you correspond with other members instead.  We will investigate it, and in most cases we suspend the user profile. We do not allow anyone to ask for money using our site; we do not think people who ask for money directly or indirectly are ready for relationship (at best) and are often fraudsters or criminals.   We do our best to screen for these types of users, but we also rely on our members to report violations to us to help us keep our members honest.

But is it OK if one person initiates a gift to the other without a request? We hear this all the time.  One member wants to help another member.   Please do not do it.  If you want to send money to the Philippines, please donate it to the Philippine Red Cross.  Visit the Red Cross donations page to make your donation.  They will do a much better job than you can from far away, seeing to it that your donation goes to the neediest people at the times when it is most likely to make a difference.

But we’ve been chatting now for a few weeks.  I just want to give her a phone so I can call. This is also common.  Our advice is don’t do it. By sending money before you have met someone, even just a few dollars, you are risking ruining a potentially good connection.  As soon as someone receives money, then the pressure from family and friends to think of you as an ATM machine starts.  Just don’t risk it.  Save the money, and buy a plane ticket to go visit as soon as possible.  We insist – don’t send money to someone you haven’t met, under any circumstances, for any reason, period.

But I want to surprise her with something nice.  Send her flowers.  You can search for ‘send flowers to the philippines’ on the internet.

If you are ever wondering, “Is this story legitimate, should I send money to this person I met at Christian Filipina”, if you don’t know the answer yet after reading this, just call us or send us an email, and we will talk to you about the particular situation and give you our advice.

Remember, the people who will be most quick to contact you on any dating website will almost always be the criminal scammers.  They work 24 hours a day creating fake profiles and trying to trick others to send money.  Learn to accept that this kind of person may contact you, and just report it, and move on.  As you take your time to get to know more of our members, you’ll find that we have many professional, innocent, and sincere ladies.  They may be more shy, you may need to take the initiative to contact them.  We have thousands and thousands of quality ladies who would never ask for money.  Don’t let the drama of a misguided person prevent you from meeting the sincere partner you deserve.  Take your time, quickly discard any letters from those who don’t deserve your attention, and be patient to slowly get to know five or ten ladies from our site, so that when you plan a trip (hopefully, soon), you can meet three to five in person as friends, to know in person which one deserves your company.

Jen and Peter

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17 February
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Top Mistakes in Dating Filipinas

scantily clad Filipina

Getting Excited for the Wrong Reasons Isn't Wise in the Long Run

Since before we met even, we’ve been observing men and women who come from different countries meet, and in many cases get married.  We met and are happily married.  We’ve seen and heard a lot of stories, and based on it, we’ve come up with a list of top mistakes in dating Filipinas.  Before we get into this list, we want to be clear that when we say we are an online dating site, we mean that we are a site where people can meet to become friends first.  We do not believe in premarital or extramarital sex, don’t encourage it, and don’t recommend it. We do believe in commitment, marriage, and family, and when the right person is there, we encourage it.   Some people who have visited other sites with many Filipina members at times get confused and think that online dating must be immoral because we encourage casual sex (we certainly don’t).  Maybe other people or other sites have different definitions of online dating.  We encourage you to find a site where the owners and other members share your basic assumptions about this.

Dishonesty - We believe that for two people to join to form something greater, that honesty is important, and dishonesty is a dangerous poison.  We strongly encourage our members that when they are corresponding or chatting, take the time to make sure what you are saying is true.  Even if you are afraid you might disappoint someone else, it’s far better to be honest from the beginning, rather than start a life based on a lie.  We believe that honesty is the way to develop trust and love, and that dishonesty interferes with our ability to trust and love one another.  If what you are looking for is power, sex, money, or status, I’m sorry but that’s not compatible with the atmosphere we try to nourish here.  We encourage those who seek to fulfill the guidance to love one another, and who believe that requires honesty, to take the time to join our site and meet fellow believers.

Obsession With Appearances – We recommend that our members focus more on profile text, and messages, rather than photographs.  First of all, this is because as much as we would like to be able to guarantee that a member’s photos are of the member, we can’t guarantee that, and we know for a fact that some members post pictures of other people.  But most of our members who have posted photos are posting photos of themselves.  Yet we still recommend that our members do not pay the photos much attention.  One of the less-appreciated aspects of human relations is that single people might look less attractive because they feel loney; but later in the company of a caring partner, they may blossom through confidence to be more attractive in the eyes of anyone who was paying attention.  On this same topic, about once a week, we get an email from one of our gentleman who is inquiring about a lady from our site, and when we look at the lady’s profile, we see a picture that looks like it could be from an advertisement for bikinis, full of curves or cleavage.  (We delete the pictures immediately.)  We believe that these kinds of pictures are not of ladies who are mature enough to have healthy relations of any kind with anyone.  We recommend you avoid them.  Unless you are a man who is obsessed with his own appearances, who cares more about his looks than his actions, then you will have a values conflict with a lady who is obsessed with her appearance.  It’s important to think about what your values are, and to find people who have compatible values.  This is much more important than trying to meet people who remind us of advertising models.

Getting Too Excited About Easy, Outgoing Ladies - It’s natural that we can get excited if we write a note and the recipient responds very quickly.  But is that actually a good sign?  More likely, if you get a response right away, you’re dealing with a professional scammer who is spending all day at the computer.  It’s actually a much better sign if you have to wait a day or two for a response.  Likewise, if you find yourself very excited because someone is very outgoing, forward, and not shy, not humble, you might want to take things a bit more slowly.  Many of our finest ladies are conservative and/or shy.  They may not want to post photos of themselves, they may not have any experience with meeting men in a context like this, and might be shy and more innocent.  This doesn’t mean they are not worth getting to know, however.  But it does mean you might need to make more of an effort.  Think about it.  The ladies who are very upfront, outgoing, aggressive even, might be easy;but do you think they will be faithful, humble, obedient?  We recommend that our members should make a special effort to write to especially those members who don’t have pictures and who might have short descriptions.  It only takes a few moments to write a short message, and you never know what beautiful gem you might find hidden beneath modesty.

Sending Money - We believe that a person who is not responsible for his or her own financial situation isn’t ready to look for a partner.    You may have even been tricked by someone who isn’t the one in the pictures, who may not even have the name or even gender or ethnicity of the one you believe you’re talking to.  We strongly discourage our members from sending money to anyone they meet online who they have not yet met.  In fact, it’s against our terms of service to request another member send money.  Please report any member who does this, whether it’s in a private message in our site, in our chat, or in a message or chat on another service.  We suspend these members immediately, as they have nothing to offer our membership.  If any member asks you to send money, whether it’s for internet fees, clothes, food, medicine, cell phone, debt, tuition, or anything else, just say no —  forward the message to us, forget about that person, and move on.  We have thousands upon thousands of quality members, and there’s no use wasting one more minute of your time if you’ve found that one of your chat mates behaves in this way.  There is no excuse for it.  If you have any questions, please email or call us.

Failing to Verify Basic Identity And Other Web-Chat Mistakes- We offer a webcam chat service for our upgraded members.  Other services, like yahoo and skype and gmail, also offer chat services that allow you to see another person on webcam.  (We believe ours is the best option for our members, because when you chat using our service, you do not need to share your messenger address with others, and you are protected by our terms of service.  If you give out your yahoo or skype id, you may find that it can be sent from person to person, and you may receive everything from solicitations for paid cam sex to bank card fraud.  We encourage you to use our site for your messages and chats, because other members will be held accountable for what they say to you and they will be suspended if they break our terms of service.  If someone asks you to leave our site for whatever reason to go to another chat service, and then solicits money there, simply report the member, and we will suspend them from our site.  We have a zero tolerance policy for this.)  In any case, you should always be sure to chat with any new contact using some form of webcam chat.  You should verify that they are the person from the pictures, and you should verify that they are the one typing.  Before I met my wife, I personally had an experience where I thought I was chatting with a person online, but was not careful, and then when I actually met the person, it became clear that she hadn’t been typing at all – she didn’t know how to type or even read or speak English – and that one of her friends had been typing while she sat at the webcam.  This stuff happens, and you need to insist that you see the hands of the person you are typing with at least once, to see that they are typing.  While you are chatting, you should also pay careful attention — is your chat mate also trying to chat with other people at the same time?  If so, forget about her, and find someone who gives you the attention you deserve.

Trying to Impress the Parents / Failing to Be Romantic / Taking it Too Fast In Person – While it’s definitely true that family ties are close in the Philippines, and that the opinions of family members are important, if you are chatting with a lady, or meet her in person, remember to be romantic with her!  Bring her a flower, or a card, tell her she is beautiful, listen to her and talk to her, wink at her.   In general, don’t be the one to bring up talking with anyone in her family about a developing affection.  If she brings that up, ok, but you should talk about your affection with her, not them, and allow it to develop by talking with her about it or just spending time with her.  Most likely she’ll always bring along someone from her family when you meet anyway.  You can talk with the others, but remember that she’s your focus.  If you’re still just meeting for the first or second time, you don’t have to be overly romantic.  Just one flower and one nice comment is enough.  More can be overwhelming.  Just take it easy.  Meet for a short meal, and then go your own separate ways, and later arrange for another meeting a few days later.  When you first meet in person after meeting online, it will take some time to adjust.  It’s like starting all over, so take it from the top.  Ask important questions, but ask them casually, questions about her education, family history, family obligations, experience with travel.  Don’t ask anything that might be too embarrassing in front of her friends or family.

Falling In Love Online Without Meeting In Person - We recommend to our members who are serious to meet someone in the Philippines, that they plan a trip.  Perhaps a two-week trip three months away.   Then try to meet five to ten people online as friends who you’d like to meet in person.  When you meet them in person on your trip, you can see whether what you had inferred or been told was correct, and see what feels comfortable.  You can even take notes; there’s nothing wrong with being careful and disciplined at such an important time.  A respectable Filipina would never object to you being careful and deliberate.   Don’t rush into passion right away.  Try to make sure you have a match of values first.  Is it more important to live for the present, or plan for the future?  Children?  What church?  Do you like gardening, or prefer spending time at the computer or in the library?  Riding Harleys, scooters, public transportation, new BMWs, or ratty old cars?  Of course many people can embrace new aspects of life when they meet new people, but make sure there is also enough foundation of commonality.  We have had members who have met online and then not met any other members, just stuck with the first person they’ve met, and it’s turned out well for them.  If this is God’s plan, then we can’t object.  But we nevertheless think God would still approve of a couple that is meant to be, even if both parties are careful and deliberate and cautious, taking it one step at a time.

Trying To Be Too Cheap - Let’s face it, there are a lot of expenses that are involved in relationships.  Transportation, potential visa costs, travel expenses, time off, relocation expenses.  If it’s between continents, it’s thousands and thousands of dollars, plus months or even years of time.  We have members who try to use their free-level membership as long as possible, or who even try to violate our terms of service and exchange contact information while still free members.  Friends!  Twenty dollars, or fifty, or even a hundred dollars, that you dedicate to membership in a quality website like ours with attentive customer service and thousands of quality members is worth every penny.  So go ahead and upgrade to one of our top membership levels; there’s no need to delay to save a few dollars.  The same thing goes for your first time to meet in person.  Don’t worry if you’re buying lunch for three or four people.  You don’t need to go to an expensive place, and you can set a clear budget – 300 peso to 1000 peso depending on the number of people attending and your lifestyle – but it’s ok to spend something to enjoy the company and the service.

If you have any other tips of “top mistakes” you have heard about, feel free to write to us, or add them as comments so that others can benefit from your experience.

Peter and Jen

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